TRINET DEBATE

This is not the appropriate forum for a debate on "what people think" or why they think what they think.

I would like to point out that when the company offered to provide health insurance for the "mini runners" a vast majority of full time operators said to me; "I didn't get health insurance when I was a mini-runner so why the hell should they get it now"? If it had not been for the maintenance employees, part time operators would still not have health insurance

I am not making this up as some way to gain sympathy for my point of view, it as an event as experienced by myself as I went around the company debating this with full time operators.

When the company wanted to offer a 3 day work week for "mini runners" it was consistently voted down each time, by the full time operators, using language as "They are taking work away from us". Us being the full time operators.

I am providing you with my opinion, you are free to reject it completely and believe what you want.

It is a union problem, and and a labor problem. Nobody wants to give up 'their' work to somebody else, its understandable.

If your not a mini runner, and have never been a bus driver, you have no way of knowing what is and is not fact.


-----Original Message-----
From: Highsmith, Wayne
Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 3:59 PM
To: Haley, Greg
Cc: Balgos, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; 'pellstonmickey@yahoo.com'
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

I am not really sure why this was forwarded to me but I am glad to see that there is no wasted minuted to fuel further seperation of the body who currently make up the workforce whom we call full time and part time ie. mini run. After reading this note it does appear that for the most part this would be an ATU issue not so much a management one. There are apparently some policies that may need to be modified.but to view a statement that has been made in the bullpens since before my employment began here is about as ignorant a blanket statement as anyone would make about a minority and is a view probably shared by a small percentage of operators.


-----Original Message-----
From: Haley, Greg
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:56 PM
To: Nielsen, Tom; Hawley, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; 'pellstonmickey@yahoo.com'
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Please remove me also.

Thanks, Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Nielsen, Tom
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:41 PM
To: Hawley, Bob; Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; 'pellstonmickey@yahoo.com'
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Can you take my name off this e-mail trail As maintenance manager at Center St I have no knowledge of this issue nor any comment to make on the issue. Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Hawley, Bob
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:57 PM
To: Margulies, Al; Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; 'pellstonmickey@yahoo.com'
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement


How about also adding into the contract a provision where we don't lose vacation transferring from, say PT to FT or other job classifications?

And how about quit penalizing us when we take vacation? Why, as minis, do we get only 5 hrs/day vacation instead of 6? Every time we take vacation, we take a hit, and that's not right.

thanks,
bob hawley
FT mini runner!
6308

-----Original Message-----
From: Margulies, Al
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Frye, Jay; 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; pellstonmickey@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement


Very nice concept!

Passing through a vote of the full time membership which holds a 4:1 advantage over part time membership is another matter.

Unfortunately, "mini runners" (a very disrespectful job title, imo) are in actuality, discriminated against by full time operators.

You hear many of the same complaints about them that are heard about minorities in the general population;

ie: "they are taking away our work" etc.

However, I personally support the concept.

Al M (career "mini runner")

-----Original Message-----
From: Frye, Jay
Sent: Sat 11/1/2008 11:59 AM
To: 'Jon Hunt'; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; pellstonmickey@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement

Thank you Jon,

Is there a proposal on the table for this coming contract? if not, can we determine if there is a real interest in adding something like this, and if so, can we include it?

Thanks again,
jay Frye

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From: Jon Hunt [mailto:JonH@atu757.org]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 2:50 PM
To: Frye, Jay; Hanson, Peggy; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; pellstonmickey@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Mini Runners - Career Advancement



Jay, this would have to be done during contract negotiation and then ratified by the membership. Jon



From: Frye, Jay [mailto:FryeJ@trimet.org]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:13 PM
To: Hanson, Peggy; Jon Hunt; OPERATIONS MANAGERS; Bus Operators; 'pellstonmickey@yahoo.com'
Subject: Mini Runners - Career Advancement



Can anyone in this group tell me if there is currently or if there will be in the near future a conversation about mini-runners being able to use their accumulated time to qualify them to apply for some of these career advancement opportunities. Many, otherwise well qualified operators feel they are being penalized for their decision to remain part time.



Please reply to all. Thank you for your time.



Jay Frye

Field Operations Supervisor.